Bug 141317 - Screenreaders not announcing focus switch between frames (see comment 3)
Summary: Screenreaders not announcing focus switch between frames (see comment 3)
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.1.1.2 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: accessibility
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Blocks: a11y, Accessibility
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Reported: 2021-03-29 09:24 UTC by juergenkohler23
Modified: 2024-05-13 03:15 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Attachments
Sample document (11.23 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2022-04-08 06:27 UTC, Michael Weghorn
Details
Screencast with Orca/gtk3 (454.35 KB, video/x-matroska)
2022-04-08 06:29 UTC, Michael Weghorn
Details

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Description juergenkohler23 2021-03-29 09:24:08 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 1 Dieter 2021-04-14 06:17:25 UTC
Shift+F4 does nothing (also in SafeMode)

Version: 7.1.2.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 8a45595d069ef5570103caea1b71cc9d82b2aae4
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL
Comment 2 V Stuart Foote 2021-04-14 14:11:16 UTC
Likewise <Shift>+<F4> does nothing for me on Windows 10 builds , but it is listed as Writer movement shortcut in Help:

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.2/en-US/text/swriter/04/01020000.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN

However, a QR Code, an OLE Math formula, an inserted image, or an interactive Frame ALL have frames.  Moving between all of them in sequence is the expected behavior. And that selection still functioning with selection movments like between Draw objects; i.e. select one, then <Shift>+<Tab> to cycle selection in order all the objects/frames.
Comment 3 juergenkohler23 2021-04-22 08:13:19 UTC
If I stand on a frame with Shift+F4, I can navigate between the frames with Shift+Tab, but NVDA only plays the first frame; I can navigate to the others, but they are no longer announced to me.
Comment 4 Dieter 2021-04-22 10:49:27 UTC
(In reply to juergenkohler23 from comment #3)
> If I stand on a frame with Shift+F4, I can navigate between the frames with
> Shift+Tab, but NVDA only plays the first frame; I can navigate to the
> others, but they are no longer announced to me.

But this is a different bug, isn't it?
Comment 5 Buovjaga 2022-04-07 15:34:14 UTC
I can reproduce that switching between two frames with Tab and Shift-Tab does not trigger an announcement in NVDA.

Version: 7.4.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 55b20c8781d7718fa992769df90282563694f7fe
CPU threads: 2; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded Jumbo
Comment 6 Michael Weghorn 2022-04-08 06:27:23 UTC
Created attachment 179397 [details]
Sample document
Comment 7 Michael Weghorn 2022-04-08 06:29:13 UTC
Created attachment 179398 [details]
Screencast with Orca/gtk3
Comment 8 Michael Weghorn 2022-04-08 06:31:31 UTC
If I understood the use case correctly, the same happens with Orca on Linux with the gtk3 VCL plugin and the issue can be reproduced with attachment 179397 [details] as shown in screencast attachment 179398 [details].
Nothing is spoken for the frames when moving there with the cursor either (in the sample doc, frames are anchored as chars).

Version: 7.4.0.0.alpha0+ / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: b426a8a4c672c20e515f1ce24404530748cc4df0
CPU threads: 12; OS: Linux 5.16; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 9 QA Administrators 2024-05-13 03:15:30 UTC
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