Bug 154213 - LibeOffice icons on the GNOME desktop are too big
Summary: LibeOffice icons on the GNOME desktop are too big
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LibreOffice (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.5.0.3 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) All
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Reported: 2023-03-15 19:23 UTC by Verhoeckx
Modified: 2023-03-24 16:20 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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LibreOffice icon compared to a normal desktop icon (117.88 KB, image/png)
2023-03-15 19:24 UTC, Verhoeckx
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GNOME icon template (15.63 KB, image/svg+xml)
2023-03-15 19:25 UTC, Verhoeckx
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Description Verhoeckx 2023-03-15 19:23:09 UTC
Description:
Hello LibreOffice developers,

The GNOME desktop has developed a standard how big the icons on their platform should be:

https://developer.gnome.org/hig/guidelines/app-icons.html?highlight=icons#size-shape
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/HIG-app-icons/blob/master/template.svg

According to this standard the icons should adhere to the size of the base shape and shouldn't take the full height and width of the canvas.

The problem with the icons of LibreOffice is that they take the full height of the canvas and don't follow the size of the base shape. The result is that the icons look too big on the GNOME desktop (in the Activities Overview and in the Dash).

The solution is quiet simple: shrink the icons until they adhere to the base shape. This will improve the look and feel (the aesthetics) of the icons on the GNOME desktop a lot.


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I was made aware of this issue by a comment of Tobias Bernard (one of the main UX designers of the GNOME desktop) on Mastodon. You can find his comment here: https://mastodon.social/@tbernard/109982952297798479


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LibreOffice 7.5
GNOME 43

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Install LibreOffice on the GNOME desktop
2. Look at the icons ;-)

Actual Results:
The icons are too big compared to all the other icons on the GNOME desktop.

Expected Results:
The icons should have the same size as all the other icons on the GNOME desktop.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
A new set if icons especially for the GNOME desktop should be created in which the icons adhere to the base shape of the icon canvas.

I'm not sure if the same problem also happens on the KDE desktop (or any other desktop) so this should be checked.
Comment 1 Verhoeckx 2023-03-15 19:24:48 UTC
Created attachment 185990 [details]
LibreOffice icon compared to a normal desktop icon

This image was created by Tobias Bernard.
Comment 2 Verhoeckx 2023-03-15 19:25:17 UTC
Created attachment 185991 [details]
GNOME icon template
Comment 3 Verhoeckx 2023-03-16 15:34:29 UTC
quiet = quite
Comment 4 Rizal Muttaqin 2023-03-22 03:32:29 UTC
@Galdam: As the creator of the icon tought you are interested with this report
Comment 5 Galdam Jitsu 2023-03-22 07:55:33 UTC
I am aware of this, it's been noted few times before. Now that I look at them, it was really a bad decision to keep them the same size as the old ones. But changing them implies:

-> Visible changes in the icons (not very certain)
-> Remaking almost all /sysui/desktop/icons .svg files and re-exporting to all those .png files. The process can be automated of course but I don't know how exactly.

I have to apologize perhaps; although I find the first point a bit concerning, I would not want to go through the process of changing it all. Unless this issue gets more attention/concerning.
Comment 6 Verhoeckx 2023-03-22 14:15:23 UTC
@Galdam:

- What visible changes do you expect?
- Remaking all the icons is indeed a lot of work. Hopefully it can me automated somehow.

Maybe an interim solution: only remake the icons that are used in GNOME Activities and in the GNOME Dash?

Questions
* Is there only one icon set for Windows, Mac OS X, GNOME and KDE?
* Are all the icons in '/sysui/desktop/icons' used, or only a subset?
Comment 7 Galdam Jitsu 2023-03-22 17:36:09 UTC
- Well, "fixing this issue" means I have to tweak the base layer but I cannot tweak the content as most icons are based on the same 32x32 svgs and it would probably make difference to tweak it altogether. Elsewise more work is added to minimize visual differences compared to the current icons.

* in GNU/Linux the svgs/pngs from "hicolor" are used.
  in Windows the .icos are used which contain hicolor images
  MacOS has special icons to fit Apple's HIG ( in "macos" folder )
* obviously all the images are used, if there is something redundant it should be removed, simply because it'd be redundant.
Comment 8 Verhoeckx 2023-03-23 11:55:27 UTC
I guess it's a lot work, but I believe it should be fixed. 
If not now, then somewhere in the future.
Good luck ;-)!
Comment 9 Galdam Jitsu 2023-03-23 16:11:44 UTC
In the future I'd rather change branding again... I was not particularly excited with those outcomes. I surely felt they are better than the old icons but still "hm ok".
Comment 10 Verhoeckx 2023-03-24 16:20:09 UTC
I also believe they are better, but also that they are a little bit to glossy. Probably due to the inner shadow.