Bug 153837 - Regional settings for French Canada standards are missing
Summary: Regional settings for French Canada standards are missing
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LibreOffice (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.5.0 release
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...
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Reported: 2023-02-26 01:17 UTC by nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com
Modified: 2023-12-02 20:29 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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image of libreoffice 7.3.7 version shows the problem (122.67 KB, image/jpeg)
2023-02-27 05:43 UTC, nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com
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image of libreoffice 7.5.0 version shows the problem (84.25 KB, image/jpeg)
2023-02-27 06:11 UTC, nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com
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page_style_showing_the_default_paper_format (91.74 KB, image/jpeg)
2023-02-27 06:12 UTC, nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com
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Description nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com 2023-02-26 01:17:19 UTC
Description:
French LibreOffice installed in Quebec is set to follow European paper standards when Quebec standards are the same as North American standards. This applies to printing paper sizes and the modified Qwerty keyboard layout. I also need a set of all FRENCH LO templates with "US letter" etc. paper sizes.

Steps to Reproduce:
1. This is a regional language and standards issue that was missed by LO.
2. Quebec uses North American standards as is used by NAFTA.
3. Please indicate where French templates with US paper sizes can be downloaded and installed for Quebec and French Canada users?

Actual Results:
Default templates are in A4 paper size for French language versions for Canada. 

Expected Results:
n/a


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
n/a
Comment 1 Buovjaga 2023-02-26 07:52:27 UTC
Please copy and paste here the contents of your Help - About (LibreOffice - About on macOS) by clicking the copy button. This allows us to know more about your system.

Set to NEEDINFO.
Change back to UNCONFIRMED after you have provided the information.
Comment 3 nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com 2023-02-27 05:43:53 UTC
Created attachment 185597 [details]
image of libreoffice 7.3.7 version shows the problem
Comment 4 nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com 2023-02-27 06:11:46 UTC
Created attachment 185598 [details]
image of libreoffice 7.5.0 version shows the problem
Comment 5 nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com 2023-02-27 06:12:39 UTC
Created attachment 185599 [details]
page_style_showing_the_default_paper_format
Comment 6 nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com 2023-02-27 06:28:21 UTC
v737 is still the only available version in the Linux Mint/Ubuntu repository.

v750 was downloaded 2 hours ago from LibreOffice's link to their FRENCH download site. 
But, the webpage is in English, the instructions are English, AND the software is in English, until the user applies the French language and French Help Packages.

Who are the users you are packaging this software for? These further add to the users' confusion. I am speaking on behalf of my French speaking audience.
Comment 7 Buovjaga 2023-02-27 07:10:22 UTC
(In reply to nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com from comment #3)
> Created attachment 185597 [details]
> image of libreoffice 7.3.7 version shows the problem

Note that next time you can just click the copy button like I said. No need to take a screenshot.
Comment 8 Mike Kaganski 2023-02-27 07:16:39 UTC
(In reply to nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com from comment #6)
> Who are the users you are packaging this software for? These further add to
> the users' confusion. I am speaking on behalf of my French speaking audience.

I guess, for any user who can comprehend the "install the software and the language pack that is offered on the same download page", given that the downloads for Linux are *not* meant to be the main installation method on that family of operating systems (distros bundle LibreOffice in their package managers, and provide convenient methods to match the UI; the package provided on the LibreOffice site offers only a basic level of OS integration for Linux, since it can't know the versions of libraries installed on your one of thousands available Linux flavors).
Comment 9 nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com 2023-02-27 07:26:36 UTC
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #8)
> (In reply to nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com from comment #6)
> > Who are the users you are packaging this software for? These further add to
> > the users' confusion. I am speaking on behalf of my French speaking audience.
> 
> I guess, for any user who can comprehend the "install the software and the
> language pack that is offered on the same download page", given that the
> downloads for Linux are *not* meant to be the main installation method on
> that family of operating systems (distros bundle LibreOffice in their
> package managers, and provide convenient methods to match the UI; the
> package provided on the LibreOffice site offers only a basic level of OS
> integration for Linux, since it can't know the versions of libraries
> installed on your one of thousands available Linux flavors).

I followed the download link for other languages from LibreOffice main page through the French link, and that page was in English. Even the browser was a French browser. About distros, please re-read the post
Comment 10 Mike Kaganski 2023-02-27 07:34:01 UTC
(In reply to nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com from comment #9)
> I followed the download link for other languages from LibreOffice main page
> through the French link, and that page was in English. Even the browser was
> a French browser.

So what? How does this help with the issue you created? Is this related to your A4 instead of Letter default page size? Please limit one issue to one problem. If you think that there is something wrong with language of download page, or with the language of just-downloaded and installed program, please create another issue, and there, provide exact steps you do (from where (URL) you opened the page; what was your browser (exact version) and your OS (including locale settings), what was your expectations, and what happened instead).

> About distros, please re-read the post

I do not understand what you expect me to see there. If you believe that I missed something, do not play "guess" games, and explain directly what you think I misunderstood.
Comment 11 nouvel.aubergiste@gmail.com 2023-02-27 08:34:17 UTC
To clarify the situation, I am speaking on behalf of an elderly French speaking community where I volunteer. The setup of the community computers are planned and tested on my computers in Windows and Linux in both languages before installation. 

About the paper size, I also discovered that this problem is inconsistent on versions between 737 and 750, in one French version, the default template is based on US letter.

After discovering the paper size problem, French speaking users who attempted to update, complained that the download site is in English.
Comment 12 Seilina 2023-04-30 16:30:24 UTC Comment hidden (spam)
Comment 13 jennykim 2023-12-02 20:29:38 UTC Comment hidden (spam)