Created attachment 180826 [details] Area dropdown list using French UI This issue concerns the French interface and has been reproduced in LibreOffice 7.3.4.2. For the purpose of consistency between the different interfaces and for the same element, the entry corresponding to "Bitmap" in Area ("Remplissage") should be translated "Image". This dropdown list is used in the "Drawing Object Properties" toolbar. Also, "Hachure" entry should be written "Hachures", still for consistency with the Drawing Style menu. Finally, in LibreOfficeDev 7.5, the "Use Background" option for area filling is missing from the "Drawing Object Properties" toolbar and the entry is not translated in the Drawing Style menu. So several trivial issues but not worth opening several reports. Thank you.
Created attachment 180827 [details] Use Backgroung option missing translation
See also Bug #95394 now fixed: Bitmap was changed to Image in some parts of the UI. It could be useful to check if this change has been applied everywhere.
For "Bitmap", I don't know, "Image" is too general. About "Hachure", I agree with you (https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/fr/libo_ui-master/search/?offset=1&q=note%3A5y6vj&sort_by=-priority%2Cposition&checksum=). About "Use Background", it's been added 1 week ago so it's too recent to expect seeing it already translated. Sophie/Jean-Baptiste: thought you might be interested in this one since it concerns French translation.
(In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #3) > For "Bitmap", I don't know, "Image" is too general. And it should be first changed in the source code > > About "Hachure", I agree with you > (https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/fr/libo_ui-master/ > search/?offset=1&q=note%3A5y6vj&sort_by=-priority%2Cposition&checksum=). Agreed > > About "Use Background", it's been added 1 week ago so it's too recent to > expect seeing it already translated. yes, we need a bit of time to do the work ;) > > Sophie/Jean-Baptiste: thought you might be interested in this one since it > concerns French translation. Thanks for the head-up Julien and thanks for the report phv!
(In reply to sophie from comment #4) > (In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #3) > > For "Bitmap", I don't know, "Image" is too general. > And it should be first changed in the source code Heiko/Xisco: any thoughts here? > > > > About "Hachure", I agree with you > > (https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/fr/libo_ui-master/ > > search/?offset=1&q=note%3A5y6vj&sort_by=-priority%2Cposition&checksum=). > Agreed => ok done on Weblate
(In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #3) > For "Bitmap", I don't know, "Image" is too general. An image could also be a vector graphic while bitmap refers to all kind of raster graphics whether bmp or png. So I'd also rather keep it.
Well, indeed there is inconsistency between the dropdown menu which says "Bitmap" and the tab in the dialog (from the contextual menu) which says "Image". The problem is not in the French translation, it is in the English. I think "Image" should be changed (back?) to "Bitmap" with the meaning "raster image" as said by Heiko. Best regards. JBF
If we pick "Image", we should revert patches for tdf#95394 I suppose. About "Bitmap", do we consider it became a kind of generic term equivalent to "raster image"? Just my personal opinion but "Bitmap" is one of a format of "raster image", so would prefer "raster image". At least people won't believe they can't use png files. Of course 2 pbs here: - it's a bit long - not sure any casual user knows the signification of "raster" So I took a look what Microsoft used in Powerpoint and read this link: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-the-background-of-your-slides-in-powerpoint-for-the-web-6927cd06-5a5b-483e-9d98-6e270df45700 It seems they chose "Picture", IHMO a good choice since: - it's not too long - everybody understands - rather implies raster In brief: - Image: too generic - Bitmap: too much related to the format - Raster image: too long and not understandable for everyone - Picture: don't see cons here only advantages :-)
"Image" is not too general. A background fill can be a raster graphic or a vector graphic. To me, "picture" means the same as "photo", and that would be far too limited for background fill. I would use "image".
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #9) > "Image" is not too general. A background fill can be a raster graphic or a > vector graphic. To me, "picture" means the same as "photo", and that would > be far too limited for background fill. I would use "image". You're right I interpret too "picture" as "photo" so "raster image". I thought we could only use "raster image" but since we can also use "vectorial image", let's stick to "Image" which corresponds to both types. Re reading the Powerpoint link, they support only raster images, at least on some "web support" case: "PowerPoint for the web supports the following picture formats: .jpg, .jpeg, .png, .gif, .bmp, .wmf, .emf, .tif, and .tiff." So indeed we should stick to "Image". The string is in svx/source/tbxctrls/itemwin.cxx: 544 #define RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP NC_("RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP", "Bitmap") See https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/include/svx/strings.hrc?r=ecfb1335#544 I suppose we may just change this but to avoid confusion, it may be relevant to change RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP into RID_SVXSTR_IMAGE git grep -n RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP include/svx/strings.hrc:544:#define RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP NC_("RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP", "Bitmap") svx/source/tbxctrls/itemwin.cxx:181: rListBox.append_text(SvxResId(RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP)); svx/source/xoutdev/xattr.cxx:1785: pId = RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP; last one contains: 1784 case drawing::FillStyle_BITMAP: 1785 pId = RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP; and this "FillStyle_BITMAP" is quite used and related to vars like "XML_BITMAP" or "CTF_FILLBITMAPNAME" so again "BITMAP" pattern in string name... Do those vars correspond to any type of image too?
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #9) > "Image" is not too general. A background fill can be a raster graphic or a > vector graphic. To me, "picture" means the same as "photo", and that would > be far too limited for background fill. I would use "image". Thanks Regina. Indeed, I just tested using and SVG as a background image and it works - I just assumed it didn't because of the current or previous wording "bitmap"! Affected: - Sidebar: "Properties > Area > Fill" or "Properties > Page/Slide > Background" - Draw tab of the Tabbed UI. (In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #10) > See > https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/include/svx/strings. > hrc?r=ecfb1335#544 > > I suppose we may just change this but to avoid confusion, it may be relevant > to change RID_SVXSTR_BITMAP into RID_SVXSTR_IMAGE That would be the better way to do it. I was going to simply change the string but changing the variable name as well makes sense. (In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #10) > [...] and this "FillStyle_BITMAP" is quite used and related to vars like > "XML_BITMAP" or "CTF_FILLBITMAPNAME" so again "BITMAP" pattern in string > name... Hossein, could you maybe have a look at the potential implications for dependents of the string and see if it qualifies for an easyHack? (Given that the two other translation issues reported by phv are now solved, I've re-focused the summary)