We announce all the great new features in release notes and inform users via infobar. That's not really convenient, and the stacked infobars are awkward anyway. The idea is to show a dialog with a carousel with images and short text updated on each release, all edited before the release by the marketing team. Shouldn't be too hard to implement. A code pointer might be the tipoftheday dialog cui/source/dialogs/tipofthedaydlg.cxx, initial release at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/69498
So like the infobar "triggered" on first use (recorded to profile). No objection, but seems like it would get stale very quickly and then the dialog would just sit there as crud on users system until the next upgrade? Also, with MAR now back on track when would the first use to expose the new dialog be shown--frequency of the dialog release?
We store the version and show the whatsnew infobar right now. Guess this will be the same for incremental MAR updates too. include/unotools/VersionConfig.hxx isProductVersionUpgraded() checks the version number And yes, the dialog lingers on the system until the next release. A few bytes of storages are wasted.
See also bug 69042, which started as the same request. The challenge as I see it: - picking the "most important ones" is tricky and subjective - but marketing can have the final word (with input from ESC?) - it would have to be done before string freeze, but release notes are often far from complete at string freeze. Other software also have a "What's new?" menu item, I think we should have it too (even if the dialog is not implemented - just linking to the wiki).
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2) > We store the version and show the whatsnew infobar right now. Guess this > will be the same for incremental MAR updates too. yes, all the bits in ini-files etc. should be the same after a MAR-based upgrade and an upgrade where you install a new .msi
If an carousel of images are shown after first start why don't we also give users some added info that LibreOffice uses extensions, provides alternative user interface options can save by default to other file formats etc. This proposal has been made on numerous occasions. Until inplace upgrades are really working on Windows then you'll only see this once anyway.
(In reply to John Mills from comment #5) > why don't we also give users some added info that LibreOffice uses extensions, > provides alternative user interface options This would be bug 137931, and I think most users don't want to be bothered by "random" options. But if the Notebookbar would be on the marketing list of new features it is going to be advertised on this WhatsNew dialog.
Created attachment 193090 [details] Screenshot with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163739 PS 15 in place for discussion there
Heiko Tietze committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/dd889b290304b73f96a9a8e6e0f144d3aa2ba7e1 Resolves tdf#159573 and tdf#137931 - WhatsNew or Welcome dialog It will be available in 24.8.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Created attachment 193386 [details] Welcome "blends into every" os Regards marketing "copy" on the 3rd Welcome screen "LibreOffice blends into every operating system and provides full customization" atop a set of screenclips of MUFFIN Notebook Bar 'Tabbed' UI. Could be better if the artwork shows clips of the 'User Interface...' picker dialog, a panel in the 'Tabbed' UI, same panel in the 'Standard Toolbar' UI, and a clip of the 'Customize...' dialog. 20240329 nightly Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: aef28c23adc87b8e26eacb56c7dbcf652e907fb9 CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US Calc: CL threaded
Created attachment 193387 [details] generic single LO FTW panel after initial install change to ooSetupLastVersion (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #9) Getting this generic single panel for 24.8 after changing ooSetupLastVersion stanza in the .xcu Edit of the Stanza value won't do it, only if I delete the stanza from the .xcu will it show the four delivered panels. @Heiko, is this intended/desired?
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #10) > @Heiko, is this intended/desired? Oh wait, that is the difference between the WELCOME array and WHATSNEW array--and the commit [1] clearly says to 'clear' the .xcu staza to get back to the Welcome, while an .xcu stanza edit would take you to the latest for the build. Cool! Just needs some love from Marketing... =-ref-= [1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163739
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #10) > @Heiko, is this intended/desired? Yes, a new installation is identified by the field being empty. And as you figured out, a value difference is interpreted as an update.
Created attachment 194125 [details] Navigation elements cut off with kf6 Cut off glitch observed in Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 78e0626bc7bf37d1eda2e3151dd1a44056f92032 CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 6.8; UI render: default; VCL: kf6 (cairo+wayland) Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #13) > ... > Cut off glitch observed in > > Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community > Build ID: 78e0626bc7bf37d1eda2e3151dd1a44056f92032 > CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 6.8; UI render: default; VCL: kf6 (cairo+wayland) > Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); UI: en-US > Calc: threaded No issues in the Next/Previous panel dots with the Windows builds, Skia based or GDI vcl rendering (though antialiasing does look odd with the GDI rendering). 20240514 TB77 nightly Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 47664e282da4999b8e471a6a916d7ec80414ac18 CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10 X86_64 (10.0 build 19045); UI render: default; VCL: win Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US Calc: CL threaded @Italo, Mike -- string freeze for 24.8 approaching. Copy and graphics for the new Welcome panels?
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #13) > Created attachment 194125 [details] > Navigation elements cut off with kf6 > > Cut off glitch observed in > > Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community > Build ID: 78e0626bc7bf37d1eda2e3151dd1a44056f92032 > CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 6.8; UI render: default; VCL: kf6 (cairo+wayland) > Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); UI: en-US > Calc: threaded I basically get the same with SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen, except that the fill color of the first circle is read instead of blue. Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: bcc1b9f22d4b2772c735176e78dfa1e7c8c39b3a CPU threads: 32; OS: Linux 6.7; UI render: default; VCL: x11 Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: CL threaded
The question came up how to test the WhatsNew/Welcome dialog in master. The Welcome dialog shows up when you restart the application in safe-mode (Help > "Restart in Safe Mode..." and "Continue in Safe Mode"); to test a second time you have to run the application once without safe mode. The WhatsNew dialog starts if you change the value for ooSetupLastVersion to something below the ooSetupVersion (which grows in case of a real update) via Tools > Options > Advanced > Open Expert Configuration. You have to change the value again to retest. https://i.imgur.com/YVdFVj6.png
Heiko Tietze committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/7fc7d3b9fe6eabeddf43fbf72a041854fda51b27 Related tdf#159573 - WhatsNew dialog: 1px glitch with Wayland It will be available in 24.8.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #16) > The question came up how to test the WhatsNew/Welcome dialog in master. > > The Welcome dialog shows up when you restart the application in safe-mode > (Help > "Restart in Safe Mode..." and "Continue in Safe Mode"); to test a > second time you have to run the application once without safe mode. > > The WhatsNew dialog starts if you change the value for ooSetupLastVersion to > something below the ooSetupVersion (which grows in case of a real update) > via Tools > Options > Advanced > Open Expert Configuration. You have to > change the value again to retest. Or more simply just delete the stanza in user profile .xcu, will force it without doing version test: <item oor:path="/org.openoffice.Setup/Product"><prop oor:name="ooSetupLastVersion" oor:op="fuse"><value>24.8</value></prop></item>
Thanks, now the clipping is gone Version: 24.8.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 98142886f21e40d0f7052f18108d9586f4b2fbc5 CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 6.8; UI render: default; VCL: kf6 (cairo+wayland) Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded