Summary: | After saving as CSV (proceeding past the warning), there is no warning on close that unpreservable formatting or additional worskheets will be lost. | ||
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Product: | LibreOffice | Reporter: | Ramon Rakow <thezeus18> |
Component: | Calc | Assignee: | Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs> |
Status: | UNCONFIRMED --- | ||
Severity: | enhancement | CC: | felipelorenzzon |
Priority: | medium | ||
Version: | 7.4.2.3 release | ||
Hardware: | x86-64 (AMD64) | ||
OS: | Windows (All) | ||
See Also: |
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123100 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137327 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139706 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160672 |
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Description
Ramon Rakow
2023-04-08 05:36:25 UTC
No. The warning is only given the first time, and does not nag people. When a warning is shown, it is expected that people read and comprehend; for vast majority, accepting the warning means "I acknowledged it, and am OK with it". Showing it the next time for the same file would be infinitely intrusive. The checkbox is to keep asking the next time the other file is chosen how to save, or another session starts. There is some value to make the warning more specific, listing all the elements known to not save to the chosen format. But that is different thing. WRT reloading after save: not only this would be too long (sometimes both saving and loading takes minutes; doubling the time for save is unacceptable). But it's worse than that: people have reasons to save to different formats, and keep working with unchanged data. Breaking the workflow, to "teach" newbies like those who are confused the first time they learn that the warning was serious, it bad. So you think that it's acceptable that someone can: 1. Open a CSV 2. Make a change e.g. highlighting 3. Save -- read the warning that says that some formatting may be lost by continuing to save in csv, save anyway 4. Notice that none of their highlighting appears to have been lost by saving 5. Proceed to work on the file for hours 6. Save again and close 7. Come back the next day, all of that work is gone Or in a different scenario: 1. Open a CSV 2. Make some changes that are preserved by the CSV format 3. Save -- proceeding past the warning 4. Pass the station to wife / coworker / boss, who makes a bunch of changes that are not preserved by the CSV format, who then saves and closes the file, losing all their work and blaming you and libreoffice If you want to avoid too many nag popups, there is an easy solution here. When the editor window, which is currently displaying data that is not saved to the file (be it highlighting, conditional formatting, whatever) is closed-- that is when a warning is most pertinent. Because that is the point where work is irretrievably lost. It is not a nag to receive one extra warning when you attempt to close the window. If there is unsaved work, you already receive a warning-- if you have last saved to a file format that doesn't preserve the features libreoffice is displaying, that is another kind of unsaved work! I'm commenting just to express I support your ideas, after losing data myself. I wish this platform had a form of "like" button similarly to GitHub issues to express I'm also affected. 1. Open MS Word. 2. Create a macro in it. 3. Save as DOCX (not as DOCM). => see a warning that macros will be lost. 4. Confirm. 5. See that macro is still there. 6. Close and reopen. => Macro is lost. 1. Open Paint.Net 2. Create some colorful painting with effects 3. Save as GIF => see a warning that quality will be lost 4. Confirm. 5. See that quality is not worsened. 6. Close and reopen. => It is 256-color only. ... It is an industry-standard behavior. If someone doesn't recognize it, they should sue their school's computer classes, that they don't teach essential skills. But warning again, or reloading, that are requested here, are *not* reasonable changes. |