Summary: | Enhancement: Font drop down in toolbar in Impress | ||
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Product: | LibreOffice | Reporter: | herk |
Component: | Impress | Assignee: | Not Assigned <libreoffice-bugs> |
Status: | RESOLVED WONTFIX | ||
Severity: | minor | CC: | kainz.a, libreoffice-ux-advise |
Priority: | medium | Keywords: | needsUXEval |
Version: | 6.4.4.2 release | ||
Hardware: | x86-64 (AMD64) | ||
OS: | Linux (All) | ||
See Also: | https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676 | ||
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Crash report or crash signature: | Regression By: |
Description
herk
2020-08-27 10:17:19 UTC
I agree, but running it through User Experience department. For the time being: 1) You could change the interface to tabbed (contains the Font box) View -> user Interface -> Tabbed 2) Alternative route: Tools -> Customize & add the fontbox back Impress comes with the sidebar visible by default, and it has the font name box in the Properties deck. In addition, you can click the View > Toolbars > Reset menu command to restore the contextual toolbars behvaior for the second toolbar row. That will make a toolbar with the font name box appear when you edit some text box. And you can just move the drawing toolbar to somewhere else in the interface, to not interfere with the contextual toolbars. If we add the font name dropdown control (.uno:FontName) we run into trouble with the total width that must not exceed 1280px (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar). Andreas, do you think we can remove/move some function to other places? A small update: it's super wonderful to see people making an effort in response to my little rant. In fact, Telesto's workaround of using the tabbed user interface solved my problem very satisfactorily. It was especially good for me because not only the font options appeared, but also buttons like font size, text colour and font options (bold, italic). I suppose the spirit of my complaint / enhancement request is that the basic options were too difficult to find, while complex functions took centre stage. For the average user, the basic functions need to be within reach and clearly visible, while they will not need most of the fancy functions. Therefore, might I add this suggestion: instead of defaulting to a difficult user interface and leaving it up to the inexperienced users to look around for basic functions (like font changes) or a basic interface (tabbed), why not turn it around? Make the tabbed interface the default and let the experienced user find the option to expand it to more complicated functionality (the current default look). In my mind this solution makes more sense than keeping this behaviour and trying to fit a font menu somewhere among the buttons (@Heiko Tietze). @Maxim Monastirsky, thank you for your reply, this worked as well, even though I must say that a more intuitive design philosophy would place the most used buttons left, and the less used buttons right. It does not make sense to me that the font menu is all the way to the right and disappears when not working in full screen, but one of the first options is a range of shapes which I rarely use. (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3) > If we add the font name dropdown control (.uno:FontName) we run into trouble > with the total width that must not exceed 1280px > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar). Andreas, do > you think we can remove/move some function to other places? In addition the font toolbar isn't activated. However I have to say that the default layout in impress isn't well fitted common users. It's nice that the drawing stuff is activated by default, but presentations contain regularly text. And yes I love to see the sidebar by default in impress. For me it's a bit confuse, that - writer/calc use standard two line toolbar - impress/draw use standard two line toolbar with sidebar but this is a topic for a separate bug. (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3) > If we add the font name dropdown control (.uno:FontName) we run into trouble > with the total width that must not exceed 1280px > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar). Andreas, do > you think we can remove/move some function to other places? In addition the font toolbar isn't activated. However I have to say that the default layout in impress isn't well fitted common users. It's nice that the drawing stuff is activated by default, but presentations contain regularly text. And yes I love to see the sidebar by default in impress. For me it's a bit confuse, that - writer/calc use standard two line toolbar - impress/draw use standard two line toolbar with sidebar but this is a topic for a separate bug (I don't want to start). (In reply to andreas_k from comment #5) > the font toolbar isn't activated. Which reminds me that it was a conscious decision to hide the formatting toolbar in bug 87676. > For me it's a bit confuse, that > - writer/calc use standard two line toolbar > - impress/draw use standard two line toolbar with sidebar Reason to hide the formatting toolbar was exactly this: two toolbars instead of four. My comment 3 was about the addition of just the font name dropdown. But in fact we should rather find a better solution. |